Letter: America could survive, but …
America could survive four years of Trump’s insults.
America could survive four years of Trump’s incessant stroking of his own bloated, but surprisingly fragile, ego.
America could survive four years of his incoherent policies, even as he cozies up with the Russians.
And America could probably survive four years of his embrace of an economic system that allows him to pay less income tax than the average fast food worker.
However, no one on the planet may survive if he gets his finger on the nuclear option.
Anne Tangeman
Jasper, Ind.
Miss Tangeman,
I do not know that Trump would have the ability to press his finger on the button and destroy the world as easily has you fret that he could or will. I guess I will have to ask the two servicemen and the ambassador that were murdered while Hillary Clinton (who then blamed it on a anti-Islamic film) was on watch. oh that’s right. I can not ask them. they are dead. what a terrible feeling they must have had in the last minutes of their lives knowing they were left by their country to die. whatever Trump has done in his life does not compare to the fact that America has become such a sorry state as to condone an out and out murderer of United States service personal as a potential president. Would Reagan or most any other President or Secretary of State except possibly Jimmy Carter, have sat back and allowed that happen? No. When we can not give the fullest support to the ones that offer up their lives to serve and protect our nation we have just about reached the end of the road. you can comment in here against me till the cows come home but I for one will never vote for a candidate, Democrat or Republican, that has committed such a crime.
Mr. Wilkinson, you are blaming the wrong individual for the four men that died. It was the STUPID Republicans in Congress that cut the funding for security for that Embassy. Everyone has a right to believe what they choose but you need to get your facts straight. Maybe you should check some of the individuals that Trump cheated, is a racist, abuses women and is the worst candidate ever to try to run for President. Did you watch the three debates? That will give you some idea of what a disaster Trump really is. Give him enough rope and he will hang himself. The Republicans that continue to stand with Trump will be defeated. It is time to clean house with the members of Congress. This Country will stand and Trump with hopefully many Republicans will be defeated in November. Let us see Evan Bayh defeat Congressman. Young.
Miss Strange,
excuse me. it took me a bit to reply to you due to the ignorance of your statement. that’s forgivable. ignorance comes with the librat territory and their manipulation of words. I guess I will have to berate all the MEMBERS OF CONGRESS for not IMMEDIATLY calling in air strikes on the surrounding area to protect and save the precious lives of the service people and employees that were posted to the United States embassy. just to educate you. at the time of need, THIS IS THE CALL OF THE PRESIDENT AND/OR THE SECRETARY OF STATE. Either one had the power. the U.S. armed forces are the BEST equipped and supplied fighting force on this planet. (Thank you! congress and the American taxpayer) but the best weapons are not must good if their is not someone with the fortitude to pull the trigger. as I said, I do not care if Trump kicked your cat. I will not and I am not voting for any person (democrat or republican) who has the power and/or the authority to act and would just stand there and leave any of our brave service men and women to be slaughtered. by the way. I am not a big fan of Young.
Mr. Wilkinson, what branch of the Military did you serve in? My husband was in the Army and my son was in the Navy. I suggest you look up the War Powers Act. Only the PRESIDENT can send out troops into battle not the Secretary of State. Congress can not call in air strikes to protect our people. I do forgive your ignorance about the statement of Congress or Sec. of State sending in troops or air strikes. How in the world did you come up with not caring if Trump kicked my cat?
“Just as the Constitution makes national security the President’s highest priority, U.S. law mandates the secretary of state to develop and implement policies and programs “to provide for the security … of all United States personnel on official duty abroad.” Look it up.
“This includes not only the State Department employees, but also the CIA officers in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. And the Benghazi record is clear: Secretary Clinton failed to provide adequate security for U.S. government personnel assigned to Benghazi and Tripoli.”
clinton dropped the ball. the deaths are on her shoulders. she was not and is not a capable person to handle the task of secretary of state and certainly not the office of the president.
my grandfather served our country during WW1 in France and survived the horrendous conditions and gas attacks. not to mention the trip over to France and Back. my father served his country in the United States Air Force during the Korean “conflict”. On the day of Jan. 27, 1973, as the Vietnam War drew to a close, the Selective Service announced that there would be no further draft calls. I was not included into the draft and never served.
my son has just been accepted into the U.S. Coast Guard and will soon be leaving for basic in New Jersey. I am immensely proud of all 3 of them, as i am for your husband and son, and I pray for my son’s sake and all the others like him including the service personal that currently serve that this weak kneed, self serving, and in my opinion (like many others) murderer is not around to have a say in their future.
the lbrat democrats seem to blame Trump for everything under the sun. so is it not so far fetched that you yourself would do the same (someone kicked your cat and you would blame Trump)? I think not. though when it comes to their POS leader obumbzo their excuse is, The Dog Did It.
Mr.Wilkinson, Please answer the question, what branch of Military were you in? Not a difficult question. Stop rambling! You are shooting yourself in the foot. The Vietnam was NOT ever stated or called a War. Do your research. It takes Congress to ratify a war. Feel sorry for your dog.
Mr. Strange
Mr. Wilkinson did answer your question. He stated that the Vietnam “WAR” came to a close before he was drafted. He also stated that he “never served”. Do you even read these things before replying?! And you’re very ignorant to believe that Vietnam wasn’t declared a war. Vietnam War was declared on November 1, 1955 and ended April 30, 1975. Almost 20 years. Even tho United States wasn’t involved in every second we still lost a lot of lives. To me your just spitting in the face of Vietnam veterans. I respect the fact that your husband and son have served. You though, you have to go back to history class.
Also Mr. Wilkinson proved you completely wrong about the Secretary of State. They very much have the power to protect the personnel of the U.S.
Funny you didn’t mention that in your reply.
Honestly (and I say this with the upmost respect) you are a special kind of stupid.
well I guess I may have to question your education after all. may you should reread my comment or maybe have someone read it to you.
“my grandfather served our country during WW1 in France and survived the horrendous conditions and gas attacks. not to mention the trip over to France and Back. my father served his country in the United States Air Force during the Korean “conflict”. On the day of Jan. 27, 1973, as the Vietnam War drew to a close, the Selective Service announced that there would be no further draft calls. I was not included into the draft and never served.”
first of all, if you mention your familie’s service it is a statement. but when I mention mine it is “Babbling”.doesn’t the last 2 sentences not answer your inquiry on the status of my service to this nation? it was certainly as plain as day.
Korea was a “conflict”. out of respect for my personal friends who have passed on or are still reliving it, I call it what they call it…a War.
your words. “It was the STUPID Republicans……. ” kind of like the pot calling the kettle black in the name calling department isn’t it. you scolded Mr. Bush for doing what you did.
as I mentioned before, when a librat has been presented with the indisputable and undeniable facts (as you have just did) on a situation they resort to the “How dare You” defense. the next step to follow is the close inspection of the commenter’s grammar and spelling. hence your White House/Whitehouse reference to Mr. Bush. thank you for adding credence to my statement.
you said, “I really hate to tell you that HRC will be the first female President of this great Country. there’s your agenda. a female president. while I have no problem with a “female” president I certainly take offense to a lying, self serving, thieving. murdering one. I would vote for Miss Condoleezza Rice (black and a woman) IN A SECOND. why? the word “integrity” comes to mind. the fact that she has never been married and has 2 children matters nothing to me. I thought highly of Samuel Jackson (black) till he came on national tv and stated that he voted for Obumba “because he was black”. the reason i use the word “black” and not African American is because that is what he used. after that I have no intention of supporting his career in any way shape or form.
please do not bring up the RN thing. your a member of a occupation of “angels” who worked just enough with bedridden patients to decide that you didn’t want to get your hands dirty and took the “paper pushing” route so you would not have to get your hands dirty again. and yes I am very familiar with the RN occupation. you opened that can of worms with Mr. Bush. let’s both just close it now.
I am not nor have i ever claimed to be the greatest representative of this human race and certainly not the most moralistic either. but in the years of my rearing as a young person I was instilled with some values and common sense. this leads to the statement that I shall repeat. I will not and I am not voting for any person (democrat or republican) who has the power and/or the authority to act and would just stand there and leave any of our brave service men and women to be slaughtered.
I dont know who Dodi Strange is, but she must have received one of those free educations the progressives keep shouting they are so deserving of. These people are brainwashed by the liberal media who spoon feed them manipulated news. She talks of research. She missed the mark totally. Everything she said was straight from CNN. The mind numbed robot station. If she took to time to read the time line of the situation that went down that evening 4 people died she would see we had plenty of time to rescue almost everyone . Everyone was told to stand down. Not once, but 4 times as they sat on a plane changing and rechanging combat gear. It was a messcreated by the Obama administration, and Hillary Clinton. You know Evan Byah just might win in November. It wont be because anything he did right. It will be from the progressive side of Todd Young that caused him to do wrong. Byah voted to create this massive mess called AFFORDABLE CARE. THATS A JOKE, but its on us. If we want to stop some of the corruption in this country we certainly do not need the head gangster Hillary Clinton as president. No telling how many times she has sold America down the road.
Mr. Bush and Mr. Wilkinson are two peas in a pod. I am shocked at the replies of you two. How dare you question my education. I can assure you my education at U of E was quality and not free. I can’t understand the hate and unkindness you both spout. I have no concern of who you both want to lead this Country or if you two even vote. Please try to be somewhat civil and stop insulting people that reply to you comments. I really feel sorry for both of you that you have so much hate for other people. Please try to address people my their names and stop being so rude.
Is the U of E in Russia? Here in The US it’s a constant battle keeping a government that is by the people, for the people. It is self serving gangsters like Hillary who make it a never ending job. Maybe if you do enough research In time you may come to see the light. Then you will realize just what accountability means. We have had an absence of accountability for over 8 years. Closer to 20. I’m not a mean guy. Just responsible.
Mr. Mark Bush,
just as always when a librat has been presented with the indisputable and undeniable facts (as you have just did) on a situation they resort to the “How dare You” defense. the next step to follow is the close inspection of the commenter’s grammar and spelling.
as for Mrs. Dodi Strange I actually do not question your education. you are probably a very smart person. it is just that you get stupid around election time.
Mr. Bush, you don’t know the difference with University of Evansville in Indiana and Russia. I really enjoy toying with people of limited abilities but, enough is enough. I can’t get through the dense brain matter and have a rational conversation with some people. Should have taken Scott’s advise and left well enough alone. Why can’t you appreciate that people are different and have different choices. I am typing with only a left hand, the right hand is recovering from surgery. Sorry for the typos. Hope you have a great evening and a great Saturday. Some people are stupid all the time, not just around election time. Lets communicate on November 9th.
Dodi
I have friends that are currently going to U of E. Honestly I’m sitting around them right now. I just asked them if the conflict in Vietnam was declared a war? They looked at me like I was completely stupid (because it was obviously was a War). Looks like your education wasn’t as good as you put on.
P.S. I’m sorry I called you “Mr.” In the other comment. Didn’t catch that mistake.
Logan, do you always call people stupid when a mistake is made. You called me Mr. I did not call you stupid Accordingly to US Gov. the Vietnam War dates are: 1964 to 1975 so should I call you stupid. The 1955 was when the Korean conflict ended. That conflict was from 1950 to 1955 and never declared a War. My husband and son are veterans so I do have a lot of respect for all veterans. Maybe you need to go to history classes.
I must repeat what I said, only the President can put troops in battle. I was not talking about protecting the Embassy. Guess you don’t really read the comments. You are stupid to question the education of anyone. I will not comment on anything you write as I don’t like to communicate with rude and ugly comments made by you. Your friends at U of E so do you question their education?
“Accordingly to US Gov. the Vietnam War dates are: 1964 to 1975 so should I call you stupid.” Now this is what you just said Mrs. Strange. Right?
Ok so now you call Vietnam a war when you clearly said “The Vietnam was NOT ever stated or called a war” when you replied to Mr. Wiliinson. Then you call me stupid for saying the dates wrong? Which technically wasn’t because the Vietnam War was named several different things before being declared by the U.S.
Who started talking about Korean? The only thing that was listed about Korean was that Mr. Wilkinson stated that his father was in it. Did you make a mistake???
You might have not been talking about the Embassy but everyone else was. Did you read any comments or did you jump to a conclusion?
No I do not question my friends education. As they seem to know what they talk about and when they talk about it. You though, you don’t seem to know what war (or non war) your talking about.
I apologized for calling you “Mr.”. You probably didn’t read that neither.
Hey Dodi! Looks like Trump won!!
Looks like you called it way too early! She didn’t even come out and address her fans! What a loser!
Dodi (and Scotty) I hope you guys are alright with this. Not like you can do a thing about it!! Check back in 4 years!!
Dodi,
My strong suggestion is not to engage with Mr. Wilkinson. It is difficult enough to make sense of his verbiage, much less fashion an argument to counter it.
Hillary Clinton had a personal relationship with the U.S. Ambassador to Libya. He was a friend of hers. To Mr. Wilkinson, the ambassador’s life (and death) is nothing more than a convenient prop to be used to score political points.
No. This was not the call of the president or the secretary of state. Mr. Wilkinson seems not to understand the level to which requests rise within the diplomatic corps.
Mr. Newton
Well you say that it wasn’t the Presidents and or the secretary of states call? Right? You think it would be a commander in charge or a the next higher ranking officer before the president. Right? Well you would be completely wrong. This whole issue was over the ambassador, his security, and the mercenaries (which were ex military) that were pulling security at a nearby government station. Which all of these people are government paid employees. The call goes directly to Secretary of State and or the President. There was no Military involved. The only involvement the military would’ve had is saving there lives.
And also answer me this genius. If it it wasn’t up to either the Secretary of State or the President, then why have we had a big deal about this and Hillary? And why has she openly admitted to having made a mistake? Which yes she did. Look it up. She might have talked around it and pushed it aside after admitting, but she still did.
You come on here and call people (that actually know what they are talking about and have done research) ignorant. Then you back up a person (Dodi) that says Vietnam wasn’t a War! Why don’t you and Dodi get together and do some research, instead of just watch the news once a week.
Logan,
It’s difficult enough to make out what argument you’re offering. Suffice it to say that all you state are conclusions, which are never backed up with facts. Cite to me that portion of the Foreign Service Policy Protocol that mandates the president of the United States or the secretary of state respond to the situation as it played out in Libya.
You can’t do it.
Responsibilities of Secretary of State:
1. Serves as the President’s principal adviser on U.S. foreign policy;
2. Conducts negotiations relating to U.S. foreign affairs;
3. Grants and issues passports to American citizens and exequaturs to foreign consuls in the United States;
4. Advises the President on the appointment of U.S. ambassadors, ministers, consuls, and other diplomatic representatives;
5. Advises the President regarding the acceptance, recall, and dismissal of the representatives of foreign governments;
6. Personally participates in or directs U.S. representatives to international conferences, organizations, and agencies;
Negotiates, interprets, and terminates treaties and agreements;
7.Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries;
8. Supervises the administration of U.S. immigration laws abroad;
9. Provides information to American citizens regarding the political, economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian conditions in foreign countries;
10. Informs the Congress and American citizens on the conduct of U.S. foreign relations;
11. Promotes beneficial economic intercourse between the United States and other countries;
12. Administers the Department of State;
Supervises the Foreign Service of the United States.
Hmmm….
Looks like she delt a lot with Froiegn Service policy. She directed where people go, she ensured the president knew where and why they were going, and to provide U.S government protection to American citizens, property, and interest in forigen countries.
How about it Scotty? Am I wrong?
And if I am. Answer the question I asked last time.
Why have we had a big deal about this and Hillary?
And why would she admit to making a mistake, if it wasn’t her responsibility?
Yes Scott she has admitted that.
Looking forward to reading your comment that doesn’t answer a single question I ask.
Logan,
I guess I’m just not making myself clear. These twelve “Responsibilities” that you fob off as facts may very well be true. But from whence did they come, Logan? Cite to me the source that legally binds a secretary of state to follow, under law, these responsibilities. Let me save you some time. You won’t find it in the United States Constitution (have you looked at that lately?) or any federal statute or regulation. My guess is that you found it on Wikipedia — not generally accepted by serious people as a credible source.
As to “why have we made a big deal about this and Hillary?” the answer is contained in your very question. The “we” is you. That would be a timid insecure group of angry white men who look at the future and are scared to death. In response they lash out at anybody and anything to keep some phony story alive.
Benghazi is a bogus issue. Even among the increasingly shrinking Trump base, it does not resonate.
Thank God in two weeks Trump/Pence will be ground into the dust, and we will be done with all this tripe.
Im sorry about that, here is exactly where I copied and pasted those responsibilities (Duties)
http://m.state.gov/md115194.htm
Feel free to read it all from this government website. Serious enough for you?? Also note at the beginning it says “Under the Constitution”.
And I wouldn’t call American Men dieing a “bogus issue”. Don’t tell me you think that Benghazi is a phony story. You know very well it is all true.
Also the “We” is everyone. Even Hilliary herself admited. Looks like you didn’t answer that question either.
So again I’ll repeat…
Why did Hilliary admit to having done wrong?
Come on Scotty say that the website is not legit. Say that Hilliary didn’t admit anything. Lie to yourself so you can think she did nothing wrong.
Also when you can’t prove those Duites wrong, tell me what do you think of a person that takes a job and doesn’t uphold her/his Duites?
I personally would fire her/him. But you know that’s just coming from a guy that’s backwoods Redneck that has owns and operated a business for the last 3 years.
Logan,
Are you one of those people who believe everything they read on the internet because, well, it’s on the internet? Those responsibilities may have evolved over the 200 years we have been a country, but they carry no legal weight. “Under the Constitution,” eh? Well then cite to me the article and section of the Constitution that LEGALLY MANDATE the secretary of state to comply with these responsibilities or be removed from office.
Again, a cite to some legally binding document, like a constitution or a federal statute or a federal regulation would convince me.
But you won’t be able to do that.
Congratulations Scott! You did exactly what I said you would do.
You completely went against that website so you could convince yourself that there was no wrong doing. Now you go off and say if you don’t get exact evidence written in the Constitution Hilliary did nothing wrong?
Ok. In and around 1789 the Constitution was ratified. Mostly to help the President with forigen affairs and polices. That’s when the Secretary of State was born. Their duties have changed over the years since then.
All the responsibilities that are listed can be found in:
22 U.S. Code § 4802
Which means:
Tittle 22; Chapter 58; Subchapter 1; section 4802
Of The United States Code.
The United States Code is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States. It contains 52 titles.
This is your legally binding document you wanted.
Now let’s watch you come back and say that this is all BS. Let’s hear you say when you looked this up you didn’t see where the first police of the Secretary is the protection of all United States Goverment Personnel on Offical Duty Abroad.
Hey I’ll help you out! Here is a link where you can look through all 52 titles of the United States Code! Make sure to go to Tittle 22; Chapter 58; Subchapter 1; section 480
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/pagedetails.action?collectionCode=USCODE&searchPath=Title+22&granuleId=USCODE-2011-title22-chap58-subchapI-sec4802&packageId=USCODE-2011-title22&oldPath=Title+22&fromPageDetails=true&collapse=false&ycord=1696
You know what just incase you get “confused” and can’t find it here is a link to the PDF that comes up.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title22/pdf/USCODE-2011-title22-chap58-subchapI-sec4802.pdf
Prove that wrong Scotty.
Prove this legal document wrong.
Oh and you never answered my question so I’ll say it again:
Why did Hilliary admit to having done wrong?
Scott? Scott, where did you go?
You can’t prove that legally binding document wrong? The one you said I would never be able to find?
Bet you feel different supporting a person that didn’t do everything there job entitles. Sounds like a terrible person for leaving people to die, right?
Now sir, YOU have no argument.
Looks as though Miss Anne Tangeman HAS PULLED A CLINTON! SHE SCRUBBED (ERASED) HER EMAIL! I wonder if she did it herself, ordered one of her “igor” henchmen to do it, or used a program to do it for her. just like hillary clinton!
Hey scotty boy!
You say, “Hillary Clinton had a personal relationship with the U.S. Ambassador to Libya. He was a friend of hers.”
With friends like that, who needs enemies. tell the families of the dead servicemen how she had a personal relationship with their murdered sons and fathers.
She also had a close relationship with Vince Foster. He’s dead! Along with many of her other “friends”.
I am appalled that even you think that their death, or any service person’s life, was just collateral damage. Lives worth throwing away for Clinton’s greedy agenda. I would spit in the face a any person that would even suggest that to be true. Is that clear enough to make sense to you scotty boy? Gutless leadership such as Clinton’s is not what this country or our service men and women need.
As i said before, I will not and I am not voting for any person (democrat or republican) who has the power and/or the authority to act and would just stand there and leave any of our brave service men and women to be slaughtered.
Mr. Wilkinson, Mr. Bush, Mr. Logan:
I’m not going to engage in substantive debate with you when you and your cohorts operate at such a juvenile level. I’ve given Dodi the same advise in previous posts. Your collective knowledge of history, diplomacy, and the foreign service is appalling. One wonders if any of you ever passed eighth grade civics. Feel free to contribute when you’ve obtained an education and can resist the name calling.
Scott
Answer one quick question.
What was we wrong about?
Anything you or Dodi said we corrected or proved wrong. You won’t respond, because you have no response. Nothing you have said was correct, and when someone corrects you you throw your hands up and call names. Sounds childish to me.
Logan,
You don’t seem to understand. Conclusions that you offer, without substantiated facts, do not equal proof. Again, conclusions without facts do not equal proof.
Please dwell on that.
What conclusion have I (or anyone else) came up with that is not backed up by facts?
You tell me I’m wrong but don’t explain why. I tell you you’re wrong and explain why.
Hmm…
Scott, thanks for the great advise.. I appreciate your support. I have never had contact with people like the 3 you listed.
again scotty boy babbles on when his accusations are countered with proof. asked and answered then ask again and again and again. it’s just typical librat behavior. Mrs. Strange, you cry out against the Vietnam “skirmish” being called a War then go as far to quote the United States government, “Accordingly to US Gov. the Vietnam WAR dates are: 1964 to 1975.” next time “consult” a reference that does not make you worthy of being called stupid by Mr. Logan. let me clear this up. when I stated in an earlier post, “Korea was a “conflict. out of respect for my personal friends who have passed on or are still reliving it, I call it what THEY call it…a War.” I feel they have earned the right to call it a war if they wish to. It was my mistake when I let it seem that i was speaking of the Korean “conflict” when actually I meant Vietnam and not Korea. again I repeat, I want to say Thank You to your family member’s service to their country. while in your youth you and your librat friends no doubt waited at the tarmac to protested against the “murdering baby killers” return and stood at the ready to spit on the brave and beaten down soldiers as they left the plane or walked down the gangplank of the ship when they were finally able to returned home. at least the 58,307 of them not returning home in a coffin. a large number of that number not even returning to American soil at all. A Vietnam vet once told me, “that is why I waded through those swampy infested rivers and fought through the miserable jungles of Vietnam. so you would have the opportunity to make your own choices in your life.” in the cases of you and scotty boy’s, that statement was never so true. if there is to be 4 years of the reign of a murderer such as hillary clinton, then so be it. so far we have survived obumbzo…..maybe. sometimes we do not get what we want or need but what we actually deserve. the librat condoning a of a thieving, self centered, murder such as hillary clinton here has finally turned my stomach enough.
Mr Wilkinson, It appears you understand Hillary pretty well. I just read the STRANGE comment. Seems libs hide thier hesds in the sand. They never want to hear the truth, and refuse to look up anything, except maybe in the NY Times. What I see as common knowledge. They actually know but use small bits of truth to obscure the whole truth. Shch as Bill not being charged for rape. If you dont want to see the truth. If you cant admit what is true then that is what you do. Cove it up the best you can because it stinks. Call some nams, Tell some lies, and go back to sleep. Its all good because the end justifies the means. Its the way they fly. Mark